Randall was paying $990 a quarter for electricity. That is about $4,000 a year his wife had been budgeting while he barely looked at the bill. Once she told him the number, the businessman in him sat up.

Source Energy Group, a Queensland residential solar and battery installer (QLD ECL 1513399), sat down with Randall on Off The Grid episode 14. His Gold Coast roof only had room for a 15.2 kW array, not the biggest setup Cam would have recommended for the usage. Even with that limit, the install cut the quarterly bill to about $100, a 90% reduction, and pulled him off roughly 900 kWh of grid power every quarter. Last updated: September 2026.

Why did Randall ignore solar until batteries got decent?

Source Energy Group hears this from homeowners who already know panels alone are half the job. Randall had watched mates put solar on for years and treated it as a half-solution. Without storage, you either nerd out and run the washing machine at midday, or you come home after dark and buy the power back. “I’m not that guy,” he told Jason Cooke and Cam Fitch.

His brother is the research bloke. When batteries got decent, the brother started looking. Randall’s wife then spoke with Jason. She said they were getting one. Randall is a businessman. Return on investment matters. He does not spend for the sake of spending. Once he saw about $4,000 a year leaving the account, the numbers added up. He put the recoup at about 3.5 years, then that $4,000 a year is “money for jam.”

That is the same point Source Energy Group walks through on residential solar audits: panel-only systems solve part of the day. The house still needs power when the family is home. Randall works from home a lot, so daytime use helps, but the battery is what stopped the guilt and the grid bill.

How did a roof-limited 15.2 kW system cut Randall’s bill by 90%?

Source Energy Group installed a 15.2 kW system on Randall’s Gold Coast roof because that was the space available. Cam sized options off the usage, the $990 bill he reviewed, and the questions Randall asked. A smaller array and different battery were on the table. They went with the larger battery stack because the long-term numbers beat saving a few thousand dollars on day one.

The numbers from the episode:

  • Bill before: $990 a quarter (about $4,000 a year)
  • Bill after: about $100 a quarter
  • Reduction: 90%
  • Grid power offset: about 900 kWh every quarter
  • Array size: 15.2 kW (roof-limited)
  • Rough recoup Randall used: about 3.5 years
  • Time on the system at recording: about 2 months

He had already spent around $20,000 putting split air conditioning through the renovated house. Before the system, he treated heat like a tight budget: on for five minutes, then a blanket. After the battery, he turns the heaters on downstairs in the outdoor work area and leaves them. “I got this battery and solar panel here.” Cam checked the app live on the episode: load kicked up to 4.2 kW when someone got home in the rain, the array was still making 394 W at 4:30 on a fully overcast afternoon, and the battery was still at a fresh 100% for the night.

Braden, on an earlier episode, pinched pennies for a quarter and maybe saved $300 by barely living. With a proper system he was saving around $850 to $900 a quarter and living. Randall’s version of that is using the air con he paid for without feeling he is paying someone else to run his own gear.

What was the install like on a Gold Coast hill house?

Source Energy Group’s crew turned up on a site other tradies complain about. The house sits on the side of a hill, layered and stepped. Randall has watched delivery drivers refuse to carry gear up. His wife has carried it for them. He warned Cam to tell the team about the stairs.

Joe in the office called every week with updates. The weather was rubbish on install day. Randall expected a walk-off. The crew “kept going like Trojans,” smashed it out, and left. He rang his brother in Brisbane, who was still arguing with another company about a third no-show. That brother’s job finished about two weeks later after a poor site analysis. Randall’s line on the SEG team: he has dealt with a lot of trades through a renovation and extension, and he had “never dealt with a crew as good as your crew.” That is the install process you want before you trust anyone on the roof.

The monitoring app is the other half. Randall is not a kilowatt-hour nerd. He can read the picture and see power moving. “You feel rewarded. You feel like you’ve done the right thing because you can see that the right thing’s happening.”

Is solar still a scam if you add a battery?

Source Energy Group asked Randall the question that still floats around Facebook groups. His answer was blunt. He does not think solar was ever a scam. He just does not think it was worth it until you add a battery. Panels alone were “look at me I got a solar panel” if you are not home to use the power.

He also flipped the payback chat onto fuel. Two cars. About $10,000 a year in fuel on his tax numbers, roughly twice the old house power bill. Wipe that with solar, battery and an EV later and the maths changes again. He is not rushing an electric car (“I like the sound of a muffler”), but he wanted the larger battery so the option is there, plus backup when the grid drops.

Cam also walked GlowBird VPP as a next step for the leftover supply charge: about 15c per kWh exported between 6:00 and 9:00 pm, up to around $2.25 a day on a fine-tuned export, plus a $1 “zero hero” credit on days with no grid draw. Jamie and another client already run that pattern. Randall had not jumped yet. The $100 quarter was already doing the job.

People Also Ask

How much can solar and a battery cut a $1,000 quarterly power bill?

Source Energy Group took Randall from $990 a quarter to about $100, a 90% cut, with a 15.2 kW roof-limited array and a battery sized for his usage. Your number depends on usage, tariff and roof space. The audit runs your actual bill, not a brochure average.

Is solar worth it without a battery in Queensland?

Source Energy Group and Randall both treat panels alone as roughly half the solution. If the household is out during the day, export-and-buy-back leaves most of the bill intact. The battery is what made Randall stop ignoring solar.

What if my roof cannot fit a large solar system?

Source Energy Group fitted 15.2 kW on Randall’s Gold Coast roof because that was the usable space. It was not the biggest system Cam would have preferred for the load. They still pulled about 900 kWh a quarter off the grid by sizing the battery properly around the house.

How long does a solar and battery install take with Source Energy Group?

Source Energy Group’s office (Joe) gave Randall weekly updates, then the on-site crew finished the hill-site job in rubbish weather without walking off. His brother’s separate installer in Brisbane no-showed three times and finished about two weeks later. Process and the crew matter as much as the hardware.

Can I use air conditioning freely after installing solar and a battery?

On Randall’s system, Source Energy Group left him with enough storage that heaters and split systems run without the old guilt. Live on the episode, the house pulled 4.2 kW when someone got home wet, and the battery was still at 100% for the night. That is living with the system, not pinching pennies.

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This homeowner was paying $990 a quarter on electricity. We got that down to $100, a 90% reduction, and it happened in one install. What makes this story interesting is that this homeowner’s roof could only fit a 15.2 kW system. That wasn’t the biggest setup we could have recommended for his usage, but even with that limitation, we got him off 900 kW hours of grid power every single quarter. I’m Jason.

I’m Cam. We’re the owners of Source Energy Group, where we’ve designed and installed countless solar and battery systems for Australian homeowners. In this episode, we’re joined by Randall, and we’re going to break down the process of how we went about reducing his power bill by 90%. Welcome back, guys. Here with Cam again for another episode, and today we’ve got Randall joining us, and Randall’s a a client of ours where we installed a 15.2 kW system, and he’s going to, you know, give us a run-through of the whole process, uh how it went for him and how it’s going today.

Thanks for joining Randall. My pleasure. Thank you. Good to have you on, mate. Thank you.

It’s actually the first time you met Cam, isn’t it? Yeah, it is the first time. Only, yeah. 10 minutes ago, yeah. Start right from the get-go, I suppose. How did the proposal process go, or what what what walked you into the into the solar world, I suppose?

I think it was all about the rebate, wasn’t it? No, I think well, yes and no. I think for me, obviously, everyone’s had solar for years, yeah, and but I would kind of just ignored it cuz it’s kind of before the batteries came along, it was just half the solution to the problem. Yeah. Unless you’re going to nerd out and stay at home and wash your clothes at a certain time and Yeah, I love that. turn everything else off.

Yeah. Like turn everything else off, and you know, when the sun goes down, and I’m not that guy. Yeah. So, I never got into it. My brother nerds out and all that stuff, and he um obviously got solar panels and everything else, and so yeah, it was really it was just the advent of the batteries getting decent.

Yeah. And my brother was putting his getting one in. So, he’s the research guy, right? So, he does all the So, I just buy whatever he does. He’s a tech coming.

He goes, “We’re going to get this car first.” I just order two of those. I’ll have one as well. He said, “No, he’s already done all the background work.” So, I just need to piggyback off him. Um so, he was getting one and then my wife was talking to you, I think, Cookie. Yeah.

And um you know how it is. She says we’re getting one, we’re getting one. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, she says you’re getting one, you’re going to compromise and you’ll get one. I mean, it looks like I do, but Yeah, so No, I think um that’s where we obviously the price is right.

Um because I’m also a businessman, so Yeah, turn on investment’s important to me. I don’t just spend money for the sake of spending it. Why not? Yeah. I don’t know.

I like it. But yeah, like the the numbers added up. I didn’t know anything about solar, kilowatt hours, whatever. Blah, blah, blah, but killer wasps killer what? killer wasps Yeah. So, on the numbers, I guess the number that everyone knows is their power bill.

What was it looking like before this process? Like before all this happened? Honestly, I had no idea. I never looked at it. My wife pays all of that.

Um my bill just got paid. Like I get like the money. Yeah, then like I mean, she’s really good at this. So, she’s great at budgeting. Yeah.

Um I raised her really well. Look at her. So, Who’s sleeping on the couch when this one goes bad? She’s away at the moment, so we’re all good. So, this may come out later.

That’s going to be a problem, isn’t it? Um no, the I didn’t know I honestly didn’t know the what our power bill was. Um we do have a budget, but she controls all that. Yeah. I don’t controls, but she manages it.

But then when she did tell me how much it was, I was like, “Oh, crap. Okay, yeah, that’s that’s some bills.” Yeah. And then And you if it was a $2,000 a year, that’s one thing, but I think we’re at $4,000 a year so I was like, “Okay, we can save some money.” Yeah. $4,000 a year, you know what I mean? That’s a bike every year. That’s a new bicycle every year.

Definitely. Couple surfboards. That’s uh Yeah. That’s what I can say. It’s uh and I when especially when someone says, “Oh, you’re just paying for it up front.” Still a benefit, isn’t it?

There’s like you said, there’s now $4,000 a year to go into something else you want to do. Yeah, I mean obviously you’re in our case we were recouping that over the first 3 and 1/2 years. Yeah. And then basically that’s money for jam after that. That $4,000 a year is You know what I Uh we did an episode recently and it’s actually refreshing to hear you say it, but uh only been half the solution now that batteries are out.

Yeah. we’re chatting about that before, but but whether whether uh batteries worth it or solar panels are still worth it or not. Uh they are only 50% of the solution. Well, there is even another episode where we ran people through what we do where Chris literally showed that when the solar panel goes on, it’s only uh roughly 50% of the solution. It was just just over 50% there. And if you’re the average person and you go to work and all the whole family goes to work at school, you really haven’t solved your problem at all because you come home and use your power.

Yeah, exactly. So, you really didn’t solve anything. I mean, we do work from home, so it’s different scenario. Well, that was going to say, glad you brought that up cuz that is part of thing we always talk about. It’s got to be designed to the household.

Yeah, so what is the household pattern, you know? For us. Yeah. It’s I mean, we’re we’re on the go all the time. We’re always home working um or playing at home.

We’d washing clothes during the day or at night or just whenever it suits or using that power whenever it suits. One thing well, before I was coming on this, I thought to myself, well, like, how’s it really affected me, my life beyond just the financial side of things, which is interesting cuz the financial side of things, yes, it’s easy, it’s just math, you know, at the end of the day. Yeah, a few numbers and you go, okay. And you probably really not going to pay attention to it afterwards. Yeah. but I found what was interesting is, particularly cuz it’s been cold in um last couple of weeks, yeah, we just renovated and extended the house and of course we just went and put air conditioning systems through the whole house, which is not something I’d always had before.

The ducted ones, but he’s Split A’s through the house and That was prior to the system. Prior to the system, so a couple years ago. Yeah. And then I just don’t I’m not saying I’m a little bit of a tight ass, but well, I don’t like to waste things, you know? Yeah, yeah.

And um so you I wouldn’t put on the heat if 5 minutes we’ve got it on, guys, and then we’re going to switch it off and Yeah. And then you’ll put put a Put a blanket up after that. Who left this light on? Yeah, Christmas socks on and I love light. Yeah.

There’s another one. I love light. Like in my house I got 10 lights on. Cuz I don’t like that dark and dreary thing. Yeah. but yeah, just actually it’s kind of very um first of all, you’ve paid what, 20 grand on your air conditioning systems in your house or whatever it is.

You can actually use them. Yeah. You’re like, oh, wow, that’s pretty awesome. I can actually use that heater. And you know what, it’s cost me nothing to use that heater in the morning cuz I got battery.

We got 50% of battery left. Yeah. So, I think from an emotional point of view it actually not emotional, but you know what I mean, like the Okay, I can actually use the stuff I have. Yeah. I can use the air conditioner and not feel like I’m Don’t feel guilty.

I’m not paying someone else to use my own stuff. Yeah, exactly, right. I know. Same discussion with my missus this morning cuz uh I was we’ve got solar and battery on at our place as well. Yeah.

Um and I woke up I cuz that would be embarrassing. If you’ve got it, No, don’t. I’ll be upset. That’s a good look. Yeah.

I Yeah, got up and it was freezing cold. I was like, “Did you turn the heater off last night?” or something, was it? Yeah, yeah. Did she turn the heater off? No, it was actually 1 degree.

Oh. Yeah, out at Brussel. But, uh yeah, she turned the heater off and I was like, “You know we’ve got like a full battery stack sitting there and there’s done nothing there.” Yeah. Would’ve been nice and cozy, but she just forgets. The last The last client we had on Braden, he was telling us all about very similar thing, but he actually done a full test.

He was penny pinching there for a while trying to reduce his bill as much as he could. Like you say, he just turning things on certain times and not running for too long. I think it was He saved maybe $300 one quarter basically not living. Yeah. And then he’s like now he says he’s he’s saving like was it 850, 900 a quarter.

Yeah, yeah. And he’s living. Yeah. Yeah, so I think that’s the other side of besides the money cuz he So for some of us money’s not the biggest issue. It’s just trying to live life.

If you’ve got it, use it. But then it all does add up for sure. So Oh, definitely. Yeah. No, like you said as well, being able to like you like the light in your house.

It doesn’t add up to the finish of your house like then if you got like nice finishings and stuff like that, they just don’t look the same if you haven’t got the LED lights cranking. No. And I mean although I do leave the lights on now, I can still hear my father’s voice telling me to turn the lights off. That was I was going to mention that then when you mentioned about Braden now he’s actually living. I was at his place on the weekend we were watching the UFC.

Yeah. Um and he had the heater going and I left the door open a little bit and he was like, “Close the door.” The heater’s on. It’s not doing bro. Yeah. Uh awesome.

So like you’ve had it for What would it be? About 2 months now, maybe? Yeah. Roughly, give or take. Yeah.

Um and you know, it was around that 4,000 a year. So 990 was the bill that I looked at when we sized it up. So roughly 1,000 and Yeah. What’s it What’s it looking like now? Um I think it’s down like 100.

Yeah. So basically a 90% reduction. Yeah. And and now you say you’re living Yeah. Yeah.

You’re not You’re not paying I’m using what I got. Yeah, I’ve got heaters and I got heaters downstairs in the outdoor area and Yeah. I I work from downstairs outside and I turn the heaters on. Turn them all on. Like who cares?

Yeah. Just leave them all on. I got this battery and solar panel here. Yeah, so No, it’s awesome. Yeah, it is.

That’s exactly it. Like you don’t want to Like you said, spend 20 grand on splitters and then go, all right, now they’re a good Like we said with rooftop solar, if they’ve got no battery then they’re Yeah, it’s going to be an ornament on the wall. Yeah, exactly. Why did you get a splitter installed? Look good.

To keep up with the Joneses. Next door got one. Yeah. I just I I thought I was going to use it. Well, see, now I’m looking forward to summer.

Yeah. Cuz last summer I was like, you know, okay, we’ll use the fans and when the fans run out of working, we’ll put the air conditioner on. Yeah. Now I just turn the air conditioner on and open the doors. See what happens.

Yeah. That’s it. That’s it. If you If you crank the air con on like say for I haven’t done it in winter, but summer time but if I did have the air con on, I’d just leave it on 23 degrees steady all night and I used next to no power cuz my house had already cooled down. And Jamie, one of our customers, he’s he’s been on as well.

He He says it perfectly. Like he just looks into absolutely everything he does. Um and he looked into it. It’s better for him to leave his air con going 24/7 than it is for him to turn his ducted on and off. Cuz it cools everything else down there.

That’s something I didn’t ever know. Yeah. Like your your benchtop will cool Like you’re saying, benchtop will cool down. trying to cool things down. Yeah. You’re not just cooling the house down, you’re cooling down the objects in your home.

Yeah. That’s crazy. Yeah. Yeah, cuz then you’re not having to try to heat the cool down this hot space all the time. It’s just like that.

Oh, yeah. No, I heard that as well. Yeah, no, you apparently got to burp your house as well if you leave your air con running 24/7 so you got to like crack some windows at least once a week. Yeah, right. Yeah.

Fair enough. Different. Yeah, that’s different. Yeah. I like the AC sorry like the AC because we get so much moisture in the air here.

Yeah. And um It does help dry it out the joint. Dries out your house, yeah. There’s a I just I hate that human smell. Yeah, it’s actually a quick way to dry clothes out too.

Well, not quick but like if you don’t have a dryer or anything like that. I used to live in Colorado man, you just hang your shirt up out dry like no humidity just evaporates out of there. Oh, yeah, good. Uh yeah. I like that you you said you’re a businessman and you know the numbers are you know, obviously high priority.

Yep. And I mean it’s high priority everyone and everyone’s always spend so much time crunching the numbers on is it worth it and so on. And I remember like I do the same thing. I go through the same process with everyone. Um yours is probably a little bit more casual.

Yeah. Gave you the one that I recommended based on the usage and bills and the questions asked. Then I think there’s a couple of questions so then I gave you some other options based on that. And obviously it’s going to be less battery, more batteries. Um with yours it wasn’t a larger system or smaller system because or I think there was a smaller one but you had limited roof space of where we could install solar so couldn’t have gone any bigger than we did.

No. Um but I think you did ask a a question around pricing and savings and stuff so I’d done one if we dropped another row and put a smaller system and different battery and everything like that. Yeah. In the end we ended up with a 15.2 kW system and I think it was 40 40. Yeah, it was the 5 kW.

So 5, yeah. And I guess doing those numbers you would have seen that the bigger battery was far more beneficial than trying to save a few thousand dollars in the beginning. Yeah, absolutely like the bigger battery and thinking long term like I’m not saying go electric car cuz I’m definitely like the sound of a muffler. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that is Very nice.

Yeah. We’ve got washing machines over there. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, that’s them. Oh.

Yeah, I’m not saying I’m But, you know, let’s say for some reason someone in my family decided they’re going to go to the dark side and get electric car. I think he’s talking to you, Sasha. Yeah. I’ve got a battery that I can charge it off. Yeah.

Um so, yeah. And it wasn’t that much more to see the other little bit more, and then I’ve got that backup, you know, if the power goes out and things like that, which happens. I think I’ve done what I’ve obviously last few days having the electric vehicles um and like I got the battery at home. Uh I did slightly go over last night, but I I drew 5 kW or something from the grid. Yeah.

Um but what’s that? That’s It depends if you fast charge it or trickle charge it as well. That’s going to make a difference as well. That’s I used a dollar something, and then I think I spent $4 charging it up today when we’re at that cafe. So, what’s that?

Not not even five bucks, and that’s I’ve done probably 500,000 K, so a dollar every 100 K’s of of your loss in that vehicle. Yeah. That’s way better than petrol. Definitely. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Petrol’s not going to get cheaper. No, that’s it. Like the sheer money you save. Yeah. But I got the battery to Yeah.

Uh I’ll be able to charge a car off of. It’s free money. Yeah. Well, when it comes to designing your system, it’s definitely something you got to consider. Yeah.

I don’t Can you add battery on Can you keep stacking Yeah, but you just can’t get another one more battery, but you’ve already claimed the rebate, so Yeah, but like Your benefit the benefit of yours and why your return’s going to be even better than people that buy now is cuz you took advantage of the biggest battery rebate there was. Early adopters always win. That’s right. Yeah. Um in saying that, it’s still well and truly beneficial to go ahead.

Yeah. Um but yeah, you just Early adopters always win. Mhm, right. Yeah. Had much contact with the office with the after sales side of things?

Yeah, that was that’s one thing I was going to ask you. I love Randall’s review and it’s only cuz I know it is or they’re all the reviews are 100% honest, but I just I love Randall’s review and I’ll let you go through it. It’s Yeah, so it was just good cuz as I mentioned my brother who is the researcher had researched and found a mob to his He’s in Brisbane, so Yeah. to do his solar and the period of time I don’t know how long it took to install this solar, but went for on forever and ever and you guys and we cuz obviously we did a renovation of our house and extended our house, so I’m I’ve dealt with a lot of trades over the years. I’ve never dealt with a crew as good as your crew. Oh, that’s all That like On your boys. the whole service everything from the the you know I mean they call you and say they’re going to be on this day and I’m like, yeah, sure they’re going to be on that day.

We’ll see. Never had that happen ever before. And then I called up and I was like, are you sure you’re going to be on that day? And then yeah, who was it that called me and gave me the update? I would have been Joe.

Joe called me and gave me the update every week. Okay, we’re we’re coming, you know. But wow, this is okay, maybe this will be good. Um, still not confident, but then when the guys rocked up, the weather was crap and it was I was like, yeah, these guys are I’ll walk off the site because you know that’s what happens. Yeah.

But no, these guys just kept going like Trojans. Just went through, smashed it out, and got it done. Yeah. Up and out of there and called my brother and said, how’s your battery? How’s your install going, mate?

He’s like, well, no, no, no, I had a big argument about how they didn’t turn up for the third time. Oh, yeah, mine’s great. Thanks for asking. Awesome. So yeah, like he he’s I think it was it like another 2 weeks later that finally they finished his.

Yeah, wow. One they didn’t do a very good site analysis to start with and then they just messed it up. I watched them. They’re a bunch of swappers. Yeah.

Unfortunately, it’s like that’s we talk about that heaps as well. These the the stigma in the industry and what causes the or like the bad name that the solar industry’s got on itself is that that exact service and conduct that people put out there is just the solar industry. It’s anything to do with the I was going to say the trade industry. I might have it wrong. My son is a tradie so I don’t want to Back to harder than that.

Your house is not a straightforward house either. It’s like it’s on the side of a hill and it’s it’s layered and it’s stepped. But it’s by no means a job that can’t be done cuz the house got built and there’s we live on the Gold Coast and there’s hills all around and there’s houses all through the hills so And the amount of people when they turn up to deliver something to our house when we were building were like, “Oh, I don’t know if I can carry that up there.” I’m like, “Hang on, mate. I’ll just call my wife. She’ll come down and carry it for you.” I used to really annoy them.

She loves that though. I love it. Yeah, loved it. But yeah, no, it’s it’s not an easy site and I was like to you, “Have you Have you told the guys there stairs?” Mhm. And then no engine.

They didn’t do it. We know each other through the mountain biking community and I know I’ve talked to Sasha where she’s told me what you just said cuz we we used to live not far from there on a hill and everything as well and she’s like, “Oh yeah, the tradies would turn up.” And then she would carry all their all their crap up there cuz they’d winge about it. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Sorry.

It’s a big in your face. That’s so good. That’s it. I love it. All right.

It’s been a great experience. Beautiful. Uh have have you had much of a play around on the app since since it’s been installed and the monitoring side of things? It’s pretty pretty flash I reckon but yeah. It’s very intuitive.

You I mean you know exactly even if you don’t know it out like I do. Yeah. I I can see a pretty picture and I go, “Oh, okay.” I would travel here, go there. Yeah. Um it’s pretty obvious what’s happening.

Yeah. I think some of the words we’ve heard come across from it is I’ll sit on this one I’ll sit on Facebook now. I’m not that bad but I’m pretty worse at baseball yeah. I’ve got to stop the Facebook thing but um Yeah, no the app’s fantastic. It definitely gives you a uh Yeah, you feel rewarded.

You feel like you’ve done the right thing because you can see that the right thing’s happening. Yeah, see it in real time. So yeah, it’s it’s good as It’s one of those things that’s you don’t lie in bed at night dreaming about your solar system that you’re going to buy and then once it’s installed cuz it’s on the roof you don’t actually see it until the power bill comes. So I guess having that real-time data analysis you know you you’re getting something for it, don’t you? Yeah.

Yeah, so we’re looking at your load. Someone must have just popped the air con on at your place or something cuz your load’s just kicked up to 4.2 kW. He just got home and he walked over in the freezing rain and he just put the heater on. Poor buddy. Oh, yeah so you got showers and it’s 16 degrees at your place at 20 km/h wind speed with a 76% humidity.

Yeah, he just walked home 2K in the rain so that’s what he’s doing. What a trooper. Well, even even with that showers and overcast weather you’re still producing 394 W out of the solar which is not bad for 4:30 in the afternoon on a fully overcast day so that’s neat. Um but yeah, battery’s only just started discharging so you’ve still got a fresh 100% for the night. I mean I haven’t even gone through and I know my water heater’s switched on to go on at night time.

Yeah, I haven’t gone to change that to the middle of the day which I probably should do. Yeah. Um have you had a look at VPP yet or GlowBird? No, no. No, so you know yours is down to about suspension linkage in a mountain bike, right?

Oh, okay. Different one. VPP so Yeah. GlowBird’s the one that seems to be working the best at the moment, but end of the day there’s other providers. Yeah.

But essentially, you could swap over to them. They offer the 3 hours of free power that everyone has to now. Like they were doing it before that. Um so you could set your battery to charge from the grid during that time if you got other usage or whatever or you could set your hot water timer during that time or if you get a V down the track, you could set it during that time anyway. Everyone’s gone to that 3 hours of free hour power now.

Yeah. It’s not just GlowBird. But what GlowBird do with the VPP between 6:00 and 9:00 at night and this the other VPPs work similar. you can set your battery to discharge to the grid. Yeah. And they’ll pay you 15 cents per kilowatt hour.

Okay? Okay. But obviously 6:00 and 9:00, that’s when you’re going to want to use a lot of your power. Yeah, yeah. Uh another client of ours, uh Jamie was the first one to set it up and then Seaweed, he was another one to set it up.

He’s no doubt on it. Yeah. Um he said he’s got it all set so fine-tuned. They worked out that, you know, between 6:00 and 7:00 they want to use their power from the battery so they don’t send anything to them. Yeah.

And then he sets it between 7:00 and 9:00 to export 15 kilowatt hours and he gets his What’s that? You got a calculator there? Yeah. I should know it by now. 15 by 15 or 15 cents by 15. It’s like $2 something.

Yeah, 225. Yeah, so 225. It’s not big money. You’re not making money or retiring or anything, but if you you can make up to $2.25 a day from doing that. And then they have their zero hero thing that is if you don’t actually draw from the grid on any given day, they will give you $1.

Again, it’s not big money. But essentially, you can get up to $3 a day or just over $3 a day from them which is going to wipe out your supply charge. Okay, there you go. Okay. Dial jumped on that now, too, hasn’t he?

I’m pretty sure. Yeah, I think he’s he’s trialing Amber in the order. Yeah, that’s right. Amber’s the other VPP. Right.

So, that brother of mine also sent me one like that where they can sell you energy in the low time, storing your battery. the Amber, yeah. And then sell it back to them at the high time. Yeah. So, you’re using your storage. Yeah.

So, Amber Smart shift, it’s called. Yeah, it’ll do all automatically when they want it. And I actually think you got to pay a subscription. Yes, that’s right. Whereas my bill and there’s no subscription, it’s just like another power company.

The only thing is you have to set your battery to import and discharge when you want it to. Okay. So, see where they and Jamie, they’ve done it. They’ve just worked out their usage is patterns and when they want it. Yeah.

You set it in the app once and that’s it. You might change it throughout the year based on seasonal habits or something like that. But, so you might change it two or three times a year. That’s it. Interesting.

Right. It’s such a weird thing, like uh from a political point of view, I think, like the government should all give us money to put batteries and solar in. And we wouldn’t have to worry about where we’re sticking a power station or anything else. Yeah, I don’t know the exact math on it. But I can run my house and someone else’s at the moment with what I’ve got.

Yeah. Like if everyone has had that on their house It would make sense, wouldn’t it? It kind of would make sense. There are Hey, guys, if the neighbors are listening. I could be wrong, but it just comes back to I think they got that much infrastructure out there and Yeah. better than there’s that many jobs in that infrastructure.

Yeah. You just got to support those jobs somehow. Yes. Yeah, we’re getting political things. Yes, I agree with you.

Yeah. It’s not in the financial interest of some people that may be out there. Yes. Oh. But it’s in the financial interest of the homeowner.

Yes. Absolutely. Yeah. I don’t know. Not to get political as well, but whenever they have a kid Yeah, yeah.

Yeah. We’ve we’ve heard a fair fair chunk, as well. Um one very common saying which a few people did believe and I you you said you didn’t yet the rooftop side of solar but you let your brother get it first. It’s the phrase is solar is a scam. I guess what would you say to anyone that reckons it’s still a scam?

I don’t think it was ever a scam. I just don’t think until you got a battery I don’t think it was worth it. Yeah. It’s just was a look at me I got a solar panel. Yeah, great.

You’re not home to use it. What’s the point? But now I think it’s it’s it’s a lot a lot of like a lot of things in life like it comes a time when it makes sense. Sometimes it’s a great idea but it doesn’t make sense until like you add a battery to it all of a sudden it makes sense. And then you add an electric car to it dare I say this?

It even makes more sense, right? Because you just cut out I spend 100 bucks a week in fuel at least. Yeah. Like what’s that over a year? That’s $5,000 a year in fuel.

Yeah, I’m about to get than my that’s more than my actually think about that. That’s that’s more than my power bill. Yeah. My gas bill like I got your bill is more than my power bill for one car. We run two.

Yeah, 10,000 in that. And I don’t drive a lot. So if you were to drive a lot you’d almost get solar and a battery to charge your car. To wipe out your fuel bill. I’d rather wipe out my forget your electricity bill for a second.

That’s nothing. Your fuel bill is 10 grand a year. That’s a great point actually. Yeah, actually my fuel bill is 10 grand a year cuz I did my taxes yesterday. Yeah. 10 grand a year for fuel is twice what my house that is.

Now if I could wipe that out with a solar and a battery that’s a whole new ballgame. There’s a new market niche for you. I’m literally just yeah, I’m thinking about this. This is I don’t know what my my my head’s thinking. It’s a that’s a whole niche to the side right there.

You should team up with Tesla or We need to we need to we need to chat to Tesla about this. I don’t know a Tesla. We’re not supporting America anymore. I’m done with that. Um yeah.

No, that’s that’s a great idea. Didn’t even think about it that way. That’s That’s neat. There’d be people that drive to Brisbane every day. Yeah, 100%.

Yeah, if they can like a lot of lot of workplaces in Brisbane now are supplying uh EV chargers at workplaces. Yeah, it’s a whole thing. How about the people that don’t get that? Yeah, can you supply a jerrycan? Yeah, like that’s that’s it cuz they asked us to put in my office.

I got an office up in Brisbane and the where the landlord asked us to put EV chargers and I was like, “Well, why would I give half my half the staff free fuel and the other half not? It’s not actually fair.” Yeah, that’s That’s a very good point. It’s like the smoker non-smoker thing. Yeah. Why do smokers get a 15-minute ciggy break and then the non-smokers don’t?

I don’t care I’m a smoker, but Yeah, I’ve been a non-smoker and I’ve always been the one that doesn’t let them. Yeah. I’d smoke in my time. Yeah. Glad we’re equal partners.

Yeah, I think that whole marketing strategy and then fuel costs. Yeah. No, it’s it’s a very valid point, mate. Um, there’s so many more benefits to it and I’m sure if we sat down and really thought about it, you could just keep nutting them out. Yeah.

Yeah, environmental too. Like, I got kids and grandkids and sometimes occasionally like when I’m putting the recycling away, like, “Okay, I’m doing this for the kids.” Yeah. Yeah, but like this is also for the kids, you know, and definitely not coal or anything else. Mhm. Uh, like I said before, that like on top of environmental, but yeah, your savings purely like you can spend the money Yeah.

And then the mountain biking side of stuff, like you can spend a bit more money, you can have the free time on the weekends. Yeah, you said it earlier, there’s just the savings you got now from the electricity is uh another mountain bike every year. Yeah. Years, couple of up for a year fuel savings. Yeah.

I could buy Yeti then, couldn’t I? Yeah. Or Yeti battery. Yeah. I was saying the review that we’re saying, I just love it.

It’s great. It’s just always good hearing from clients. I guess when we started this, like we’ve been in the industry at different levels, different lengths of times, and it is a industry that has a bad stigma, and we’ve said from the start, the whole thing of this business is just still right, and Yeah. make sure we’re the ones that are that are here to answer the phone, and and build a place that the team want to work. That’s it. Lead from the front.

Yeah, that’s great. And you guys are definitely doing it, like hands down. Congratulations, you are very well. Thank you. from my experience, so Yeah, thank you. But yeah, just hearing you guys from different, I guess different scenarios, and getting the different benefits, it’s just I guess that’s what it’s all about.

Yeah. So, that’s definitely And definitely thanks for coming in. My pleasure. That’s all for me. Appreciate you coming, mate.

Appreciate being being invited. That’s awesome. So, I guess there you have it, guys. There’s Randall’s story from start to finish on what it used to look like before solar. Um the turning point for him is obviously the batteries, making it worthwhile, coming down to the numbers as a businessman.

Um but what I really liked is what you said about, you know, the other bonuses of I mean, you obviously live life already, there’s no question there, but like just the little things around the house that you don’t have to worry about anymore that you just do and enjoy, like the air con, the heating, the cooling. That’s what it’s all about. It’s make the home a home. I know. He’s what he has.

No pinching pennies. If you guys want to get what Randall’s got, give us a call, and we’ll send out one of the team and see what they can design for you. That’ll do. Thank you.

Randall went from $990 a quarter to about $100 with a roof-capped 15.2 kW system and a battery sized for how his Gold Coast house actually runs. Source Energy Group, a Queensland residential solar and battery installer, designed it around the bill and the site, not a price list. That is what Break Free From The Grid looks like when the numbers are real. Book a free energy audit if you want those figures run on your own usage.